Hey folks, I've just recently brought a 1968 Datsun 1000 sedan am have just started tidying up the old girl, I'm looking at getting a set of 16x8 rota wheels and am just wondering if they'll fit. P10 offset. So hoping that they will I'll probably move onto getting an sr20det or 13bt dropped into the engine bay. If anyone could help me out it would be much appreciated. Chea
 
Gary Hughes
South Fremantle
Australia

I am able to do most of the mods myself as have done engine conversions etc in the past, as for the wheels I'll just have to do some measuring etc and maybe just try them on before I buy. I'm a kiwi so if there's a will there's a way, hopefully.

yea there's no doubt you can actually fit either engine in there, i dont think you'd be able to get it engineered under normal rules it would have to be built as a icv or something and that requires a few $$ i think not totally sure tho so dont take my word as gospel
 
i would definately test fit them, your speedo will probably be a fair way out to

South Fremantle... i.e WA... not SA guys
At least thats the way I read it
 
Yes you can fit the engines... but highly unlikely you will get them legal
And as for the wheels.... you can only try... buy actually trying a set on and seeing how they fit
I'd say they will rub EVERYWHERE
My 14's do
 
You'll need some body stiffening , disc brake front at least and lots of other work (inc cutting tunnels to fit box,big diff , etc) so I hope your up to the big work big $ challenge
 
 
How about showing us some pics ?

Yeah that's correct, south Fremantle as in western Australia, well I'll try the rims on and see how I get on. In regards to the engine I don't see why it would be Illegal as a rotary isn't exactly heavy and for horsepower, you could probably get the same 220hp from a a15 or something similar but would cost a hell of a lot. I just tried to upload some photos but I'm on my iPad and they're in the wrong format apparently.

Neil, This guy is claiming 230hp from his A14.
 
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DATSUN-A14-RACE-ENGINE-HILBOURNE-INJECTION-ENGINE-MANAGEMENT-IGNITION-SPEEDWAY-/271013134674?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f19a44152
 
and this guy is claiming 320hp from a turbo A12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXTn_rdtbhQ

Lets stick to street motors in NA form shall we
 
I know of both those engines.. .and don't doubt the claims (though I'd like to see the dyno sheet on the meth engine pulling all the way to 13k)
I don't dount the A series.... but we're not talking about outright power we're talking about a streetable car
So no tangents thanks

Suh-weet! Great starting block you've got there, original plates too it seems. 69 or 70?

Yeah, you are right Neil, those figures are not realistic for the original Question, Sorry Gary.
 
I would consider a G13B-NA, G13B-Turbo, 4AG20V-NA, CA18-NA or I believe there was talk about a single rotor 13B-Turbo creating a 6.5B-Turbo on here a while back.

Looking up the Light vehicle modifications page on the Qld Transport and Main Roads site, in Part 1 of the Code of Pratice...

Engine Capacity Limits (on page 31 of the PDF)

 
As far as I understand the engine laws up here in QLD we go by the weight of the car
*Factory Weight would be for a sedan @ 625kg without extra options such as Deluxe models, and not based on heavier models either, so if you have a sedan you can't go off the wagons weight of 645kg.
 
For NA motors in cars under 1100kg we multiply that weight in kg's by 3 to get the maximum capacity (CC's) of an engine you can legaly put into your car, Turbo Motors are x 2.5 and Rotary engines are calculated at twice their capacity.
 
So for a 625kg car...
 
NA = 1875cc
Turbo = 1562.5cc
 
For rotary engines a 13b is considered to be a 2616cc engine (1308 x 2)
 
So up here in QLD an SR20DET or a 13B-Turbo is out of the question.
 
I believe there is now a National Code of Practice for all other states,but for cars under 800kg's the same rules apply.
Gary, you should go by the NCOP as you are in WA.

Engine swaps require split or dual braking system and a collapsable steering column.
 
The engine rules are on page 11.
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP3_Section_LA_Engine_01jan2011_v3.pdf
 
All other mods for the NCOP
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx

Whats the weight on the rego papers
Thats what they will go by
Not the stated factory weight
My coupe and wagon are both listed as 711kg on the papers = 1.8T or 2.0 N/a
But it needs to be made to fit of course... theres pics here of a 1000 going thru a CA18 conversion
And I'll try find my pics of the rotary one for you.... not that I think thats a good engine to use nowdays