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Wednesday, 02-Jan 2013 @ 10:47pm
Ash,
I found that when i have done some internal car trimming, that the est stuff to use is the brush on contact cement and use it very thinly. This is the stuff I have used in the past and had good success with.
You dont need as much glue as you think. In fact, when I did my overhead console in my patrol, i didnt use any glue at all. I simply pulled the carpet tight and then stapled it back. i also have done a similar thing with the jukebox i have made. Nobody has ever mentioned to me that my trimming lacked glue or was mis-shapened. By not using glue at all, you can pull the carpet, or vinal in this case to the right tension at all angles.
You have to be careful as plenty of glues will affect how foams will behave, Some will dissolve foam, or soak thru as you have already found.
Considering that the door cards in the though are held down with several screws around the border and the window winder and door lever are in the middle, you have two seperate points in which to pin back the vinal.
If you still want to use glue and good trick that i have used is to apply the glue to the timber only. You are following the "wet application" method. Basically, you apply the glue to one side only, and press down the carpet ASAP, not letting the glue become tacky before contact.
This method gives you some time to reposition the carpet before it glues down hard. Also doing this in a cool place will slow the glue setting. IE in air-conditioning at this time of year. Its not critical, but it gives you more time to reposition the carpet is required, or to remove it totally if you completly mess it up.
Hope that helps some
I found that when i have done some internal car trimming, that the est stuff to use is the brush on contact cement and use it very thinly. This is the stuff I have used in the past and had good success with.
You dont need as much glue as you think. In fact, when I did my overhead console in my patrol, i didnt use any glue at all. I simply pulled the carpet tight and then stapled it back. i also have done a similar thing with the jukebox i have made. Nobody has ever mentioned to me that my trimming lacked glue or was mis-shapened. By not using glue at all, you can pull the carpet, or vinal in this case to the right tension at all angles.
You have to be careful as plenty of glues will affect how foams will behave, Some will dissolve foam, or soak thru as you have already found.
Considering that the door cards in the though are held down with several screws around the border and the window winder and door lever are in the middle, you have two seperate points in which to pin back the vinal.
If you still want to use glue and good trick that i have used is to apply the glue to the timber only. You are following the "wet application" method. Basically, you apply the glue to one side only, and press down the carpet ASAP, not letting the glue become tacky before contact.
This method gives you some time to reposition the carpet before it glues down hard. Also doing this in a cool place will slow the glue setting. IE in air-conditioning at this time of year. Its not critical, but it gives you more time to reposition the carpet is required, or to remove it totally if you completly mess it up.
- Lay down on the timber/door card some 10-20mm dia lengths of dowel or similar spaced about 10cm apart. You use a fair few sticks, but anything clean will do the trick. (eg bamboo garden stakes) The idea is to keep the carpet and card seperate, blut as close as possible so that you can see the layout and reposition it but its not glued down.
- Paste on the glue onto the card sparingly. Avoid the sticks as you dont want any glue on the carpet yet!
- Then lay your carpet/vinal down over the sticks, glue and door card. This way the carpet is not contacting the glue (ie getting stuck) before you have positioned it correctly.
- Make sure you are happy with the orientation and layout. Resposition as required, but be quick, you dont have much time as the glue begins to set quickly, particularly in the summer heat.
- Start by removing the middle sticks, one at a time.
- As you remove each stick, press down the carpet from the inside out. This will keep everything uniform and remove air bubbles.
- Be careful not to strech the carpet as you push it down to the card. You will have some time to repostion, but not much.
- Work you way to the edge of the card, pressing down the carpet.
- Once at the edge, flip over the card and begin trimming and fixing the edges. If you are quick, you will be able to pull and strech the carpet to give a seamless finsih for the front.
- As you do each section, flip back to the front to check its ok and keep going til you are done.
- If you are doing vinal, then be careful on how much tension you apply as it doesent return easily back to shape. Easy, easy gentle gentle is the key with vinal. Carpet is much more forgiving.
Hope that helps some
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