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A warning from a fellow datsun nut

Hi to all Perth folks, and by extension to anyone on this forum.

I wish to advise you of a exceptionally shadey character that I have had the unfortunate privilege of doing business with.

I originally engaged him to do some panel beating work on the lead from a fellow Datsun nut, and it has turned out to be a very expensive exercise with very poor results. (no blame of any part is on the fellow Datsun nut. He didn't know either)

I can do into details of the whole story, but this dude has basically ripped me off around $5,000 and his quality of work is average to say the least.

The guy lives in Greenmount in Perth. I can provide more info about this individual if people want but this is sufficient for now. PM me for details if you want more

Whilst I don't expect anyone here to suddenly jump to my side and defend me,(particularly since you don't really know the whole story to decide for yourself) I would hope that at the very least everyone takes this as a warning to not do business with this man. He will rip you off at every opportunity and show no remorse for his actions. Do not let his stories sway or garner any empathy from you.

If you do wish to support me, my only request is that never do business with this man ever again and ensure that you let everyone else know to do the same. He does not deserve the generosity or helpfulness of the Datsun community.

Cheers
68 4 Door project (http://www.datsun1000.com/TopicView.asp?TopicID=668)
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Vote up, 
It's a shame people are rip off merchants.
Name and shame is the only way to go with pricks like that! It's a shame you got the shaft I know only to well how you feel! Do you have any pics of what was done (out of interest). I'm sure you will find someone to do what you need that won't rip you, there is still a few good guys out there!
RT did he do the work or had someone else do it?
 
Also why did you pay him for his crime??? you never pay for inferior work
you get an assessment done by hiring an assessor from one of the insurance
companies or third party which is usually 120-150 dollars.
 
Sorry to hear of this dilemma hope this article helps
http://www.fastlane.com.au/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=2919
http://www.ftw.com.au/Automotive/Tech_Info/Finding_a_Good_Body_Shop.html
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Thanks Dix. I know that there are a few good sorts out there. Its funny, I met a dude when I was driving a truck on a construction site who claims that by the time he finished his apprenticeship as a panel beater, he was so turned off the whole industry as to its corruptness and general dirty nature that he left and now works as a general labourer for a civil construction company for minimum wage. His opinion is that there isn't a straight panel beater out there.
Now I don't agree with him 100%, but its intresting to note that someone from the trade thinks that the whole industry is shonky, that the attitudes that permeate every facet is that of ripping people off at every turn.

D
As always, its not as simple as not paying. I could have walked away from the car but in the end I would have lost out everything. By the time I realised what was happening I had already sunk several thousands into the car for progress payments.
When I realised what was happening, I told him to stop work, provide me with a final bill and I would collect soon after.
Once he worked out that I was onto him, all the shonky stuff came to light.

He was also happy to lie both to my face and over the phone.
For example, I was told that the car was ready to go into final primer and paint. That everything else had been done. When I go to collect the car, its still in early sanding stage with 80 grit paper, and there are several dents in panels that haven't been straightened or filled out. Sure I can get antsy, but if I leave the car with him, he still has that over me. I can withhold payment, but he still has my car.

I also had to consider that he does not appear very stable. I have seen him flip out for no real reason on a few occasions. I was genuinely concerned that if I forced anything that he could turn violent. That is not a situation that I want my family or anyone I know to have to deal with. As it was, it caused my lady enough grief.

I also have to consider my legal position. if I commit any sort of crime, then not only have I sunk to his level, but I can still lose out. I have to craft my every step to ensure that he had nowhere to turn and that I was squeaky clean.
Sure I could rock up, push over his gates, tear off the shed doors, punch him in the face and take my car. I actually had quite a few genuine offers to help with that. (A good friend is Italian with lots of 3rd cousins + several other very good friends) But that means I have committed a crime, and my clean police record is critical to my career. (security, access to secure gov areas, working with children, amongst other things need a clean record)

Ultimately I should have identified the problems earlier and withdrawn my car sooner. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, and it bit me hard.

68 4 Door project (http://www.datsun1000.com/TopicView.asp?TopicID=668)
Earth First!!! We Can Mine The Other Planets Later
Sorry to hear RT
And D
You know what the most annoying part about this whole "thing" is?
Its that if it had gone to plan, I would have the car near completed now. Just doing the fiddly bits, getting ready for licensing. Instead, I have no money left to put together the motor and other bits and an unfinished car in rough filler.
Just plain shits me...

68 4 Door project (http://www.datsun1000.com/TopicView.asp?TopicID=668)
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X2 Reuby, once bitten..... 
sorry to hear tha Reubs, we all hope the best for you!
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Thanks D. I know that everyone here wants to see another 1000 on the road and lovingly driven regularly. Daisy will be finished soon enough. Its just a short term stall.
68 4 Door project (http://www.datsun1000.com/TopicView.asp?TopicID=668)
Earth First!!! We Can Mine The Other Planets Later
I saw your post on the FB Perth Datsun Club page Reubs. I'm heading up to Kdogg's joint tomorrow; he's on the Bully escarpment now, which I think is only another half hour along Chittering Rd to the Toodyay city limits?? I'd be more than happy to head out and take a look mate and I don't think Kdogg's wouldn't mind going for a drive either.
When the "D" hits your eye, like a txt smiley guy...
Thats the spirit! will be good to see the first twin cammer A series 1k
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act, Big Brother is watching you - George Orwell United we stand, Divided we fall - Aesop  NAMES IN JAPANESE - LOOKING FOR VB10 SHELL http://iamthewitness.com/ZionistControlOfBritain.html   lovely piece! http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=24688
I just posted this on another thread, Wheel Wanted
turns out he's a serial A$$hole, shadey rip off merchant... I can't go back to his place as i feel i couldn't contain my distain for this person..... 
 
"the muppet that wanted this wheel, (John in the original post) ended up with a wheel, as part payment for the job he did on my car (repaint for a dialy driver)well that was my biggest mistake, I paid up front with the wheel and sill mouldings for a coupe,  then, the price of the job went up 50%, as well as the coupe wheel and sill mouldings... (so basically double the original price indication) now, about 12 months later, the paint is peeling, rust is breaking out in the doors... what a SHYTE job, this cowboy, supposedly a "Vehicle restorer" nothing but a rip off merchant, and an oxygen theif.....  end of rant... "
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