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Upper Balljoint Compatability

just wondering if anyone knows if the 1200 balljoint fits into the 1000 knuckle? or of any other readily available balljoint would?
 
just tryin to draw up the balljoint plate in cad for my upper arm and the standard 1000 one sorta makes it difficult with the mounting bolts sticking out the side, the 1200 one or something similar would be perfect just not sure if the king pin is the same size??
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
Your planning on making tubular arms to suit another balljoint ?
1200's never had uppers... due to the strut
What do mean by mountings sticking out the side ?
 
You can always run a tapered reamer thru the stub axle to accept a different joint
i thought the lower 1200 one might fit but yea thats what my plan is to fabricate some modular arms, well the braket has to be wider because of the mounting points plus 1000 ball joints are a pain in the ass to source.
 
i was trying to make it as a bolt in thing incase anyone else wanted a set because when i get the ball joint plates laser cut its going to be more cost effecient to get a bunch done
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
I've thought about this also
 
Even considered Holden upper ball joints as they bolt in also
But either way would need a reamer for the tapers in the stud
 
Try to find a balljoint book with all the tapers etc listed and balljoints with pics
Will make your job alot easier
I had one... can't find it atm
 
Would love some tubular uppers arms too ... when you decide to make some
well if i could find a gm ball joint to fit i'd be laughing all the stuff is off shelf apart from the cross bar but highly doubt that will happen.
 
im half thinking for the moment it will be easiest to just design a plate for the 1000 balljoint and get that all working first then progress from there. i've also have to decide which way to go with attaching the adjustable arms to the cross rod, wether to use a bushing type mount or just use heim joints opinions on this??
 
thanks for the suggestion neil i will try find one.
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
Why bother when you can have correct new ones? 
"""just design a plate for the 1000 balljoint and get that all working first then progress from there"""
 
I like that idea then use a common balljoint
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SharmCos, Making a new upper control arm with a common balljoint will just make finding upper balljoints in the future easier.
They are hard to find in Australia.
 
And also upper control arm bushes are hard to find so making a custom upper control arm fixes fixes the problem of finding those as well.
 
What's the avialibility like over in Malaysia on these parts?
I see you have found some of them already in another topic.
http://www.datsun1000.com/TopicView.asp?TopicID=471
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
Hehe I know 
 
Went out of town yesterday, dropped by at a parts shop and found some ball joints and tie rod ends. These are not available anymore where I live. I'm not sure if I can get more but will definitely grab all I can find.
 
If anybody wants some parts I currently have these I can sell:
 
6 upper ball joints (555 Made in Japan)
3 pairs of inner and outer tie rod ends (Johnson, Made in Japan too)
 
Maybe I can start a thread where people can list what they want so it'll be easier for me next time I go out hunting for parts?
well everything thing i need to make one arm is on its way over from USA. got adjustment arms, bushings, ball joint plate and a couple other little bits.
 
Another plus is i was talking to my mate at applied laser and he say's he'll have a look at the balljoint plate i ordered and hopefully be able to adapt the 1000 balljoint into that. if that goes well i can get some laser cut, make a jig and then wuulla. then all i'll have left is the cross shaft which im still brain storming ideas for.
 
D - Yea i dont wanna make it to complicated, i will never get it finished if that happens
 
SharmCos - it pretty well started because i brought some really wide wheels with low offset and didn't like the idea of upper control arm spacers to get camber, plus as beetwenty stated 1000 bits and pieces are hard to get and often have a high price tag, the amount i've spent on NOS parts is worth more than my car lol and for the life of me can't understand why there cars sell for less than there 1200 brother
 
edit - you'll find plenty of people interested, you must of posted just before me lol
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
yeh mate im keen as on a set of upper ball joints how much you want for a set?
cheers chris
There you go mate http://www.datsun1000.com/TopicView.asp?TopicID=473
 
Sorry for hijacking your thread ThouUte 
thanks pm'd mate
Why make it to suit a balljoint thats NLA ?
 
I'd be picking something readily available like a Torana upper BJ that bolts in with 4 bolts.... if the taper is close enough or the stub is reamable
main reason is just to get the geometry right and that it would actually be viable for street use.
 
well i'll have to go down to the local repco or something and see what they have similar to the thou one
 
does anyone know the taper/size of the b10 balljoint/kingpin?
 
here's a picture of one of race cars with similar front end setup
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon

 
I just measured one of the 555 ones like in the pic above.
Measurements I got were...top 11mm - base 12.3mm tapering down over a distance of 13.5mm.
 
The rubber boot made things hard to measure, (It's a tough little sucker).
 
Those numbers should get you close.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
sweet thanks ash gives an idea of its size i dont actually have any at my house to measure
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
Thinking about those numbers...
 
12.3mm - 11mm = 1.3mm gain over 13.5mm length.
 
So roughly 10:1  eg 10mm length changes 1mm diammeter.
Do you think that could be a standard taper size?
It sounds as if it could be a metric standard? if such a thing exists?
That would make sense on a Japanese car.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
dunno hey im not sure how they measure it, found gm have 1 1/2 degree taper poor foot and found a reamer tool for that just not sure of the dimension of the king pin. 
 
having a hard time finding a metric reamer taper tool
 
it could be standard its just hard to find a ball joint with the same size taper
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
My old racecar
But it had Torana upper balljoints and stubs
 

 
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