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Steering box re-build

Hey guys rang a guy about rebuilding my steering box and he quoted me 550, do you reckon this is a bit steep?? he said as long as the worms alright he's got the equipment to custom make any spares needed
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
Well if that covers the custom fabrication of the replacement parts then I guess it's okay but sounds like fairly broad quote conditions.

Why not grab another one that still works? $550 is a fair bit hey.
yer i thought it was a bit pricey, i've got 2 so will definately be getting one done for my ute after i sort out ball joints
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
I just ordered a datsun 1200 parts book, so it should arrive in a week or so.
If 1200's and 1000 steering boxes share any part numbers I will let you know.
I'll just look up the steering box in the 1000 and 1200 parts books to see what bits are the same.
I think they share some gaskets and shims, I'll confirm this once I get the book.

Ash.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
Leith,
I have decided to rewrite some service procedures.
I have just finished one for rebuilding a 1000 steering box.
Here is a link to it like I promised you the other day.
http://www.datsun1000.com/PageView.asp?PageID=80

Ash.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
For what its worth, I have discovered most conventional Pitman arm pullers (33mm gap) are TOO BIG for the teeny 1k PA.
As another option...
I have used a 100mm crank puley remover successfully twice now.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
thanks ash for that! 

im gonna have to get one of those pulley removers
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
I got mine from super cheap, I can't remember exactly how much but I think it was about $30 or $40,.

Also in the steering procedure from that book I showed you the other day,
Nissan never specify when to refill with gear oil, and some of the pics in the book don't match the steps listed, (I have shuffled some images to match up with what is being said).
Nissan have a pic of an outer tie rod end being seperated from the spindle knuckle when talking about checking for play in the gear arm.
And a pic of the steering wheel nut being torqued up when talking about checking for backlash.
A few things like that.
If something looks funny to you please let me know so I can fix it.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
rito to easy thanks ash, i never pulled one apart so would just be following the book

your gonna have to start chargin people to join up ash with all the work your puttin in lol
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
Its all for the love of 1000's, Hopefully this info and more like it can help keep all our 1000's on the road for longer.
I'll do some more every now and then, it is a bit of a brain drain if I do too much in one go.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
braaaaainn draaaaaiiiin.

That's how I am at the moment.
1000 Numbers are...



  1. 48010-18000 Assy-Gear,Steering (3 Speed)
  2. 48010-20900 Assy-Gear,Steering (4 Speed)
  3. 48010-24900 Assy-Gear,Steering (4 Speed LHD)
  4. 48010-27700 Assy-Gear,Steering, For Steering Lock (OPT.LHD)
  5. 48011-18000 Assy-Housing,Gear (RHD)
  6. 48011-24900 Assy-Housing,Gear (LHD)
  7. 40825-18000 Bearing-Worm (All Models)
  8. 48137-18000 Seal-Oil,Sector Shaft (All Models)
  9. 48137-61500 Seal-Oil,Sector Shaft (All Models)
  10. 48024-18000 Assy-Colum, Steering (RHD)
  11. 48024-24900 Assy-Colum, Steering (LHD)
  12. 48024-27700 Assy-Colum, Steering (OPT.LHD)
  13. 08911-34210 Nut, Fixing Steering Wheel (All Models)
  14. 08916-24210 Washer-Lock, Internal Tooth Fixing Stering Wheel (All Models)
  15. 48050-18000 Assy-Jacket, Column (3 Speed)
  16. 48050-20900 Assy-Jacket, Column (4 Speed)
  17. 48050-27700 Assy-Jacket, Column (LHD)
  18. 48054-18000 Assy-Bushing, Column Jacket (All Models)
  19. 48031-18000 Shim-Adjusting, Worm 0.05t (All Models)
  20. 48032-18000 Shim-Adjusting, Worm 0.07t (All Models)
  21. 48033-18000 Shim-Adjusting, Worm 0.08t (All Models)
  22. 48034-18000 Shim-Adjusting, Worm 0.10t (All Models)
  23. 48035-18000 Shim-Adjusting, Worm 0.12t (All Models)
  24. 08110-82010 Bolt Fixing Column Jacket (All Models)
  25. 08915-13810 Washer-Lock Fixing Colum Jacket (All Models)
  26. 48103-18000 Shaft Selector (All Models)
  27. 48502-18000 Arm-Steering Gear (RHD)
  28. 48502-24900 Arm-Steering Gear (LHD)
  29. 08911-24610 Nut Fixing Gear Arm (All Models)
  30. 08915-14610 Washer-Lock Fixing Gear Arm (All Models)
  31. 48201-18000 Cover-Sector Shaft (All Models)
  32. 48204-18000 Gasket-Cover (All Models)
  33. 48135-66000 Screw-Adjusting, Sector (All Models)
  34. 48130-66000 Shim-Adjusting, Sector Shaft 1.53t (All Models)
  35. 48131-66000 Shim-Adjusting, Sector Shaft 1.56t (All Models)
  36. 48132-66000 Shim-Adjusting, Sector Shaft 1.59t (All Models)
  37. 48133-66000 Shim-Adjusting, Sector Shaft 1.62t (All Models)
  38. 48134-66000 Shim-Adjusting, Sector Shaft 1.65t (All Models)
  39. 08911-34010 Nut-Adjusting Screw M10x1.25 (All Models)
  40. 08110-82010 Bolt Fixing Sector Shaft Cover M8x1.25x20 (All Models)
  41. 08915-13810 Washer-Fixing Sector Shaft Cover (All Models)
  42. 08913-10410 Plug (All Models)
  43. 48214-18001 Bolt Fixing Steering Gear (All Models)
  44. 08912-40810 Nut-Self Lock Steering Gear (All Models)
  45. 08915-43810 Washer-Plain Fixing Steering Gear (All Models)
  46. 48324-18000 Clamp-Steering Post, Upper (All Models)
  47. 48326-18000 Clamp-Steering Post, Lower (All Models)
  48. 48325-18000 Packing-Steering Post (All Models)
  49. 48327-18000 Finisher-Steering Post Clamp (RHD 2DR-B10 3-SPD, RHD VB10 3-SPD)
  50. 48327-H0100 Finisher-Steering Post Clamp (OPT. VB10, B20, RHD 2DR-B10 Auto, RHD 4DR-B10 Auto)
  51. 48327-20900 Finisher-Steering Post Clamp (RHD VB10 4SPD)
  52. 48327-H0110 Finisher-Steering Post Clamp(OPT. VB10, KB10)
  53. 48327-24900 Finisher-Steering Post Clamp (LB10 2DR 4SPD, LVB10 4SPD)
  54. 48327-27720 Finisher-Steering Post Clamp From Oct-67 (LB10 2DR 4SPD, LVB10 4SPD)
  55. 08110-62010 Bolt Fixing Post Clamp (All Models)
  56. 08915-43610 Washer-Plain Steering Post Clamp (All Models)
  57. 08915-13610 Washer-Lock Fixing Steering Post Clamp (All Models)

The red listing is for shared part numbers between 1200's and 1000's.
I hope this can help with your rebuild.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
thats some real good info, i wonder what actually needs replacing? 

my main problem is i dont know what to look for, i understand all the spacing/gaps just wouldn't be sure which parts specifically need to be done.

im also half thinking can you  just replace the steering box/shaft, idle arm and tie rod ends with 1200 stuff? i remember when we were talkin the other weekend ash that the you were pretty confident the 1200 idler arm would line up. just unsure if the indicator stalk, column surround and dash mounts are compatible/lineup
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
When I was talking about the idler arm I was talking about the side not on the steering box.




I was meaning to use a 1200 idler and use the third hole in the pic (Above the rear idler arm bolt)
to make things line up again.
I bought a 1200 arm that was listed as fitting both 1000 and early 1200.
I won't know for sure untill it comes time to assemble my car again.

The Steering Gear arm for a 1200 has a different part number listed so I have no idea if it will work on a 1000 steering box.

From memory Pedders list Outer Tie Rod ends for 1000's, although im not sure which thread they suit.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
I decided to take a pic of the 1000 idler arm and another of the 1200 idler arm from the same angle to see how close they are.

Turns out they are the same.
I used skinny bolts that were smaller than the holes in the chassis so there was a few mm of play with when mounting.
But the pic still demonstrates what im getting at.



The 1200 idler arm in the pic is 555 brand Part number CSX1135.

I also think the 1200 part will have less flex than the 1000 part because everything is kept much closer to the mounting points on the chassis.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
thats sweet, i just bought one of those a few weeks back

thats what i was thinking if that idler arm lines up maybe the 1200 steering box might if its got the same mounts?? was only throwin it out there
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
I think there is a good chance the whole steering box/column set up from a 1200 would work.
The exploded diagram in the two parts books are identical.
I think the 1200 only had an extra spacer at the steering wheel end.
The only thing I could see as being a potential problem would be the overall length of the steering column. (You don't want even less room in the 1000)
and maybe the diamater of the steering column if it happened to be different, but even then it wouldn't be hard to mount.
I would say you could use the whole indicator set up and even get a steering lock/ignition in the 1k.


I have no idea if it would actualy fit..
Maybe you should see if anyone on 1200.com has a spare in the shed they could measure.
or maybe even donate.

If it works you would have a collapsable steering column in your 1000.
That would be better for your own safety and would have to make any engine swaps that little bit easier to get your engineers certificate.
1967 Datsun B10 2 Door.
How heavy are these things? Ive never had them out before, they look pretty heavy.
Ive been wondering of going for a shortened rack and pinion from a CommonHo.
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never really looked at a rack and pinion setup would be nice,  was trying to keep it simple and would also be easier to get parts i assume.

i'll try get measurements if it's to much longer im not real interested i like the space the way it is

thats what i was thinking ash would be good to be a bit safer lol
Current Dato -
68 B20 ute project
Previous Datos -
68 B20 ute
68 B10 2dr sedan
ca18det 1200 ute 180rwkw
12a montser port 1200 ute 212rwhp
Stocko 1200 wagon
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